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Short description of changes

This replaces the inbuilt reverb with MVerb by Martin Eastwood.

CHANGELOG: Use MVerb by Martin Eastwood for reverberation

Context: Fixes an issue?

This replaces the inbuilt reverb with a professional grade reverb algorithm:

MVerb is a free, studio quality, open-source reverb. Its release is intended to provide a practical demonstration of Dattorro's figure-of-eight reverb structure and provide the open source community with a high quality reverb.

Does this change need documentation? What needs to be documented and how?

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Up for discussion

What is missing until this pull request can be merged?

As this has not been tested thoroughly I'd like to keep it a draft for now

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The builds fail, because MVerb was pulled in as a submodule and we seem to only clone them for android builds.

Edit: fixed

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The builds fail, because MVerb was pulled in as a submodule and we seem to only clone them for android builds.

I wonder if the sub-module clone can be repo-specific, so we can have one that only does liboboe for Android and another that does this for all platforms, included in the main clone step.

That suggests we also need build documentation changes included here.

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I wonder if the sub-module clone can be repo-specific, so we can have one that only does liboboe for Android and another that does this for all platforms, included in the main clone step.

autobuild.yml currently handles submodules only for android, because oboe is our only submodule.
I have never had reasonable success with autobuilds on github, especially since I don't know how to properly test these scripts locally before releasing my embarrassing attempts to the world. Any advice on how to do that the right way?

That suggests we also need build documentation changes included here.

Haven't though about that but, yes, certainly.

Edit:
We could have Jamulus.pro check for existence of MVerb.h. If not found we can fail with an error message telling the user to run a target make submodules which would clone MVerb for all platforms and oboe only for android or just do it automatically. Just an idea because I just remembered typing make submodules at least once somewhere else.

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how to properly test these scripts locally before releasing my embarrassing attempts to the world.

If it is not in .github they should be designed to build .deb/.dmg/.exe/.ipa/.apk I believe that this is not achieved at the moment. However, you can try and see where they fail.

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For my taste, it is a bit too "far" .

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For my taste, it is a bit too "far" .

It is nothing that is "needed" but the current reverb sounds horrible, tbh.
If we ever really needed a reverb (and I heavily doubt that) we should have used this in the first place or rip it out entirely, which would be my second choice after at least trying to improve things. Have you listened to MVerb in comparison to the current implementation?

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Yes. I think the reverb implemented here (this PR) sounds too far. Yes, probably better than what we have at the moment.

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Actually, we could also only include the reverb if the submodule was loaded.

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Yes. I think the reverb implemented here sounds too far. Yes, probably better than what we have at the moment.

I used one of the presets just to have at least something to start from. I'm not with my usual gear but will be tomorrow. I'll tweak some settings and try with different instruments and hopefully find a useful preset.

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Just a thought: We could easily expose the reverb parameters via JSON-RPC and store them in the .ini file

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You should be able to test the autobuild scripts on your own repo without raising a PR by pushing to a branch starting with "autobuild" -- I think.

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You should be able to test the autobuild scripts on your own repo without raising a PR by pushing to a branch starting with "autobuild" -- I think.

Yes, that works. But I meant locally as in my machine. I found something which involved containers and didn't work for windows so I guess I'll stick to my github repo.

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It should definitely have the presets as configuration option in the Advanced Setup screen too.

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It should definitely have the presets as configuration option in the Advanced Setup screen too.

I wasn't too sure about how to handle this. Either make it JSON-RPC exclusive or have power users and nerds edit their INI files, which is dead easy. I didn't want to bloat the UI with a setting nobody actually requested.
I've never worked on UI things so that might take a little while to get into. I just got the autobuilds fixed so I'll push that first.

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I also only have limited UI understanding. I think @ignotus666 knows more.

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For my taste, it is a bit too "far" .

I guess this is due to the "predelay" parameter setting. I chose a preset with no pre-delay.
We can always add new presets but I just copied those from the VST plugin for now.

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It should definitely have the presets as configuration option in the Advanced Setup screen too.

Done

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  • Linux amd64 works (tested debian autobuild binary and local arch linux build with gcc16 and qt6)
  • Android works (tested on Android 17/GrapheneOS)

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I'm also a bit puzzled why there's no OFF preset that causes the code to bypass the reverb processing (and maybe have that disable the main dialog controls).

Maybe the settings page isn't quite right for this after all. We've got the UI on the main panel. Perhaps a pop-up chooser for the preset would be better than having to open Settings to change preset.

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I'm also a bit puzzled why there's no OFF preset that causes the code to bypass the reverb processing (and maybe have that disable the main dialog controls).

Maybe the settings page isn't quite right for this after all. We've got the UI on the main panel. Perhaps a pop-up chooser for the preset would be better than having to open Settings to change preset.

Moving the preset chooser to the main UI and adding an OFF preset would make sense. Right now I think it can confuse people I the reverb fader just did nothing when OFF was selected (in the settings dialogue).

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Only once we remove the reverb to settings this makes sense, I think.

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Right now I think it can confuse people I the reverb fader just did nothing when OFF was selected (in the settings dialogue).

I was thinking "OFF" would disable the slider (the UI does show a slider being disabled, just about). If they'd had the slider not at zero and another preset selected, I really don't think switching it to "OFF" would be confusing in itself -- it's just that the slider should stop being available (and have no effect). So "OFF" needs to stop the slider moving.

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Walkthrough

The custom STK reverb is replaced with MVerb. Builds can exclude reverb with noreverb. Client settings persist one of seven presets. Reverb controls are conditionally compiled or hidden when reverb is disabled.

Changes

MVerb reverb integration

Layer / File(s) Summary
Build and dependency wiring
.gitmodules, libs/mverb, Jamulus.pro, COMPILING.md, COPYING, src/util.cpp
The project adds the MVerb submodule, conditional reverb compilation, the noreverb option, Windows C++17 support, and updated MVerb license and attribution text.
MVerb processing engine
src/plugins/audioreverb.h, src/plugins/audioreverb.cpp
CAudioReverb uses block-based MVerb processing with stereo buffers and seven parameter presets. Its initialization and processing APIs replace the former JCRev/STK implementation.
Client reverb state and persistence
src/util.h, src/client.h, src/client.cpp, src/settings.cpp
Client reverb state and processing are excluded under NO_REVERB. New preset accessors connect the client to CAudioReverb, and revpreset is loaded and saved.
Reverb controls and preset selection
src/clientdlg.h, src/clientdlg.cpp, src/clientsettingsdlg.h, src/clientsettingsdlg.cpp, src/clientsettingsdlgbase.ui
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The reverb replacement adds presets and optional build support, but changing settings while audio is active can race with audio processing and cause unstable behavior. Console version output also retains outdated reverb attribution. Resolve the concurrency issues before merging.

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  CClient->>CAudioReverb: setPreset selected index
  CAudioReverb->>MVerb: Load preset parameters
  CClient->>CAudioReverb: Process audio block
  CAudioReverb->>MVerb: Process stereo float buffers
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1738-1740: 📐 Maintainability & Code Quality | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win

Update the console attribution; it still names STK.

The About dialog now credits MVerb (lines 527-529), but GetVersionAndNameStr still prints the Synthesis ToolKit attribution and the Stanford URL. This PR removes the STK-derived reverb, so the console output names a library that is no longer part of the build and omits MVerb. Align this block with the dialog text.

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-        strVersionText += "\n *** " + QCoreApplication::tr ( "Audio reverberation code by Perry R. Cook and Gary P. Scavone" ) +
-                          ", 1995 - 2021, The Synthesis ToolKit in C++ (STK)";
-        strVersionText += "\n *** <https://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/stk>";
+        strVersionText += "\n *** " + QCoreApplication::tr ( "Audio reverberation powered by MVerb" ) +
+                          ", Copyright (c) 2010 Martin Eastwood, licensed under the GPL3.0 License";
+        strVersionText += "\n *** <https://github.com/martineastwood/mverb>";

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In `@src/util.cpp` around lines 1738 - 1740, Update GetVersionAndNameStr’s console
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Add cbxReverbPreset to the tab order.

The <tabstops> sequence skips cbxReverbPreset between cbxInputBoost and chbDetectFeedback. Add it after cbxInputBoost so keyboard traversal includes the new combo box.

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Translate the preset labels.

These seven literal labels bypass tr(...), so localized builds display them in English and exclude them from the Qt translation catalogs. Wrap each label in tr(...).

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In `@Jamulus.pro`:
- Around line 107-108: Set C++17 in the global CONFIG block so all
reverb-enabled platforms, including Unix, macOS, and iOS, compile with the
required standard; remove the platform-local C++11 or other standard selections
that override it. Preserve the existing reverb configuration and use the global
CONFIG declaration as the single standard selection.

In `@src/client.h`:
- Around line 434-440: Synchronize the four audio settings used by
ProcessAudioDataIntern—iAudioInFader, bReverbOnLeftChan, iReverbLevel, and
iInputBoost—through an audio-thread state handoff instead of unsynchronized
cross-thread access. Update SetReverbPreset() to enqueue preset changes for the
audio thread, and apply them there before AudioReverb::Process() invokes
MVerb::process().
- Line 215: Update SetReverbPreset and the audio-processing path around
CAudioReverb so preset changes are serialized with ProcessAudioDataIntern: queue
the requested preset to the audio thread or apply prepared state only at a block
boundary, ensuring CAudioReverb::setPreset never mutates the shared MVerb
instance concurrently with CAudioReverb::Process.

In `@src/settings.cpp`:
- Line 512: Update the revpreset validation in the settings-loading code using
GetNumericIniSet so it accepts the full CAudioReverb preset index range 0..6,
preferably by reusing the shared preset-count symbol; preserve the existing
default and assignment behavior.

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Outside diff comments:
In `@src/util.cpp`:
- Around line 1738-1740: Update GetVersionAndNameStr’s console attribution to
replace the obsolete Synthesis ToolKit credit and Stanford URL with the MVerb
attribution used by the About dialog, while preserving correct output for
NO_REVERB builds.

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In `@src/clientsettingsdlg.cpp`:
- Around line 573-579: Update the seven preset labels added to cbxReverbPreset
so each string is passed through tr(...), ensuring they are localized and
included in Qt translation catalogs.

In `@src/clientsettingsdlgbase.ui`:
- Line 1139: Update the tabstops sequence in the UI definition to include
cbxReverbPreset immediately after cbxInputBoost and before chbDetectFeedback,
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int iAudioInFader;
#ifndef NO_REVERB
bool bReverbOnLeftChan;
int iReverbLevel;
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Keep audio-thread state synchronized.

ProcessAudioDataIntern() reads the four plain audio settings on the sound callback. Qt callbacks write them without synchronization, which creates C++ data races. SetReverbPreset() also changes MVerb parameters while AudioReverb::Process() can call MVerb::process(). Use an audio-thread state handoff for the settings and queue reverb preset changes for the audio thread.

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In `@src/client.h` around lines 434 - 440, Synchronize the four audio settings
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@pljones

pljones commented Sep 6, 2026

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Of course, one thing I've totally missed:

  • JSON-RPC and GUI alignment.

As this is a substantial replacement of an existing UI and Client feature, it needs to have appropriate JSON-RPC support.

Now that really does open a can of worms. If we're going to have pluggable effects, the JSON-RPC API needs to:

  • probe the Client to determine what effects it has (initially just the reverb)
  • probe what controls the effect exposes (preset and wet level for the reverb)
  • send correctly-typed updates to the Client, targeting a specific effect, to adjust the controls (and the Client needs to make sure the UI reflects these)
  • receive notifications from the Client for updates made in the UI to controls on a specific effect

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Now that really does open a can of worms. If we're going to have pluggable effects, the JSON-RPC API needs to:

That's why I stated we could alternatively remove the reverb, because it doesn't really belong here in the first place. See #3787 (comment)
I just worked on the reverb because it was already there. I'd vote against any DSP in Jamulus generally.

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