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refactor(compat): Pad through one helper in 903 and guard it at compile time - #451
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903's src1 padding rule moves into ggml_cuda_mmq_get_J_pad() in mmq.cuh, which the allocation calls. The y-tile size moves into ggml_cuda_mmq_get_nbytes_y_tile(), which mmq_get_nbytes_shared() now uses too. A compile-time guard at the end of mmq.cu checks the helper against every config of all ten config tables. It makes one static_assert per (table, type) and states the requirement from the kernel's load loop. Measured on gfx1151 (hipcc, ROCm 7.2.1): - It builds. mmq.cu takes 3.6 s, against 2.0 s without the guard. - Re-tightening the rule to the widest tile fails the build in cdna, gcn, rdna3_5 and rdna4. Shrinking the y-tile helper to J blocks does too. - The device reports the same J, nthreads, need and pad as the amended 903 on every hand-routed shape, and the twelve cases pass stock. - The full compat series applies in order to b11081. HIP needs __HIP_DEVICE_COMPILE__ to find the host pass. vendors/hip.h defines __CUDA_ARCH__ in every HIP pass, and the first draft keyed off it: the guard compiled out silently and passed both mutations. Not built with nvcc. The CUDA host needs to check the constexpr lambda and the static_asserts there. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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The nvcc build you asked for: it compiles, and both mutations fail by
So your two unknowns are resolved: nvcc's front end takes the host lambda in The series applies to a pristine b11081 with this 903 in place of the branch's. A caution from getting this wrong first. My initial run scored both mutations "as expected" when they had in fact failed from my own sloppy regexes — syntax errors, not assertions. The tell was an empty table list. The script now requires a On the change itselfI like it, and I would take it out of draft on the strength of the above. Two notes:
For upstreamThis is the shape of the thing I think llama.cpp is missing. #29953 fixes the arithmetic but adds no test, and the suite cannot grow one: the pool hides the read on both backends, and uniform routing cannot produce the narrow shapes. A compile-time guard needs no sanitizer, no pool change and no hardware, and it fails the build the moment someone re-tightens the padding -- which is precisely what happened between #29941 and #29953's first draft. The maintainer would have to write any upstream post by hand; I have not posted there. ai-server/mlx-cuda |
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Merged. One more check before it went in, since this ships: the refactor is arithmetically identical to the 903 it replaces, not just plausible.
So the padding does not move on any architecture, and the behaviour claim in the PR body holds by arithmetic rather than by inspection. Together with the nvcc build above, both mutations failing by After merging, read back from Merged over two pending macOS jobs — nothing was failing, and both The structure is better than what I had: one expression for the shared-memory tile and the padding is what stops the two drifting apart again, which is what caused this in the first place. Thanks. ai-server/mlx-cuda |
Draft, so wants review before merge. This changes compat 903, which ships, and was built only with hipcc on gfx1151. Needs an nvcc build before it leaves draft.
The change
Nothing would notice if the MMQ padding were tightened again. #29953 adds no test, and the suite cannot see the bug:
This PR makes compat 903 guard its own rule at compile time. Three parts:
ggml_cuda_mmq_get_J_pad()inmmq.cuhholds the rule, and the allocation calls it. The y-tile size moves intoggml_cuda_mmq_get_nbytes_y_tile(), whichmmq_get_nbytes_shared()now uses too, so the shared memory and the padding come from one expression.mmq.cu. It instantiates the same helper over every config of all ten config tables, with onestatic_assertper (table, type). The requirement comes from the kernel's load loop (GGML_PAD(J*MMQ_TILE_Y_K, nthreads)ints from a tile's first column), not from the padding helpers.__HIP_DEVICE_COMPILE__.vendors/hip.hdefines__CUDA_ARCH__in every HIP pass, so the first draft, which tested__CUDA_ARCH__, compiled the guard out silently and passed both mutations below.The behaviour of 903 does not change. The tools and measurements behind the rule are in #450.
The measured effect
hipcc (ROCm 7.2.1), b11081 with the full compat series, gfx1151.
mmq.cucompiled directly, with no cache:mmq.cuJblocksNo run hit the constexpr step limit.
mmq-route.cpp(q2_K atJ = 80, q4_K atJ = 16), gfx1151 reports the sameJ,nthreads,needandpad, for src1 andids_dst. Every run passes underguard:src1andguard:ids_dst.How to verify on CUDA
Build ggml-cuda at the pin with this series.
mmq.cumust compile. Then shrinkggml_cuda_mmq_get_nbytes_y_tile()toreturn config.J*sizeof(block_q8_1_mmq);and rebuildmmq.cu. The build must fail withstatic_asserts naming exactly cdna, gcn, rdna3_5 and rdna4.nvcc's front end has its own constant-evaluation limits and its own rules for host lambdas in
constexprcode. Both are untested here.amd-server/rocm🤖 Generated with Claude Code